tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post9098315423395015186..comments2023-12-04T09:59:55.778-08:00Comments on the glade of theoric ornithic hermetica: . . . notational noetics . . .Steven Famahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09886207582824520804noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-38607621665717543772010-05-18T07:35:00.696-07:002010-05-18T07:35:00.696-07:00The work you quote above reminds me of Whalen, Eig...The work you quote above reminds me of Whalen, Eigner, and Alice Notley.<br /><br />At her best, Kyger gives you the 4th dimensional sense of hovering above a position in space where you thought you were already an observer, but you're now looking at yourself thinking that. I don't know how to say what I'm trying to say. The not knowing is where many of the poems start, and then, somehow, they accomplish this further remove.<br /><br />She gives the impression of a constantly shifting consciousness, nervous and unsettled.Curtis Favillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-1974616611171357882010-05-16T20:41:14.308-07:002010-05-16T20:41:14.308-07:00Hi John,
"notational noetics" is mine ...<br>Hi John, <br /><br />"notational noetics" is mine (or at least I can't remember stealing it from anybody!) -- however, I must give a big assist to Kyger on it, in that "notations" of course is her term (it's quoted in the excerpts) for her journal entries. The "noetics" part is but an alliterative riff, though I think it fits...Steven Famahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-27656423058338889542010-05-16T20:09:17.251-07:002010-05-16T20:09:17.251-07:00I gotta ask: who came up with the phrase "not...I gotta ask: who came up with the phrase "notational noetics." I love that. <br /><br />Also, the sentence: "Language is sculpted energy." I cannot come up with a better definition. <br /><br />This woman works in steel. Or should that be Kyger Aluminum?John Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07873070309448793816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-46622828944404532010-05-16T17:47:44.611-07:002010-05-16T17:47:44.611-07:00pardon me I found Ron's essay (and the commen...pardon me I found Ron's essay (and the comments)<br /><br />this should be read again:<br /><br />http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2007/07/in-1957-23-year-old-joanne-kyger.html<br /><br />and<br /><br />as an aside<br />I think she and the band (of Beats) made their way to Kyoto and Cid Corman<br /><br /><br />I always thought that the gal-beats were more honest then the boys...<br /><br />sort-ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-65553010186859362982010-05-16T17:33:04.624-07:002010-05-16T17:33:04.624-07:00so
the Kyger Collected each poem
set on it s o...so<br /><br />the Kyger Collected each poem <br />set on it s own page just as done in say <br />it should be... as things were set originally ,say, in Just Space Poems 1979-1989<br />as Black Sparrow "did it"<br />and as Blue Millennium did Patzcuaro ?<br /><br />now, when I get "through" with Nin's Diaries (Journals-Notebooks) and her novels will revisit<br /> Joanne Kyger .. well,<br /><br /> her work, anyway<br /><br />(now to track-back via Ron's review of... via the magic of the Innhernet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-74365952549566096512010-05-16T17:16:26.908-07:002010-05-16T17:16:26.908-07:00Thanks Ed, as always, for your quick reading and t...Thanks Ed, as always, for your quick reading and two responses here.<br /><br />With regard to <i>About Now</i>, Kyger's 700 page Collected Poems -- all her poetry from 2004 and before (but not <i>The Japan and India Journals</i>) is in it, and its a beautiful edition, with each poem starting on its own page.<br /><br />The quotation in this post from Ron Silliman, regarding Kyger's "<i>right now</i>" poetics links back to his review of that book, if you care to read more about it.Steven Famahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13733977161680651117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-7000885998837692672010-05-16T17:01:27.910-07:002010-05-16T17:01:27.910-07:001967-68 NOT 1968-78!!! was just that I had to ...1967-68 NOT 1968-78!!! was just that I had to after reading Lorca and Paz just had to after graduating Maryland had just drop The Institution .. get to Mexico<br />and <br /> I even drove my Chevy...slept in it alot...<br /><br />EdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83923751899084745.post-81526901740488439692010-05-16T16:54:02.020-07:002010-05-16T16:54:02.020-07:00you re:kindle my light and whet my appetite for......you re:kindle my light and whet my appetite for...<br /><br />as I have not kept up with her writing<br />since well<br />-Japan and India Journals<br />-All This Everyday<br /><br />and somehow fell into her<br /> -Just Space<br />and -Patzcuaro<br /> (I spent several months (near there) in Zihuatanejo in 1967-78<br /> about 30 years earlier <br />and identified with her movement through this little book)<br /><br />a 700 page collected? NEAT. Thanks terrific review/take on...Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.com